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Whytewulf
March 7th, 2007, 01:36 PM
So I am buying a new PC this week most likely from cyberpowerpc and am not the sharpest on the new pc tech, so I thought I would post and get some opinions. Here is the unit I am looking at.


CASE: Hot New! X-Cruiser Mid-Tower 420W Case W/ WINDOW, MultiMeter Display & Control (Silver Color)
MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)MSI K9N SLI Platinum nForce 570 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 SATA-II RAID MBoard w/ Dual 16x PCI-Express
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
CPU: Socket AM2) AMD Athlon™64 X2 5200+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
VIDEO: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA
CD: 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
FAN: CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit + 2 EXTRA CASE FANS
FLOPPY: 1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: Single Hard Drive (320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
KEYBOARD: Logitech Deluxe 104 PS/2 Keyboard (Black Color)
MOUSE: Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse (BLACK COLOR)
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
POWERSUPPLY: Thermaltake ToughPower 600 Watt Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: Logitech X-230 2.1 Configuration Speakers System
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

WNC: PCI Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Interface Card
_PRICE: (+1623)

Ryodanu
March 7th, 2007, 01:49 PM
Recommend 700w power supply or higher, also you might as well just buy the 8800 GTX card, its better then 2x 7950, they've proved it in side by side comparisons. Also recommend getting a 10k RPM hard drive if youre planning on using it for Vanguard. Makes things smoother. I wouldnt get windows Vista tho, it doesnt like Vanguard and has caused probelms for some of my guild mates using the 8800GTX card. Im waiting for service pack 2 for Vista and the bugs ironed out. Thats just me personnally tho.

Ryo

Whytewulf
March 7th, 2007, 03:20 PM
Thanks for the input. I will check out the 8800, it was an option and I opted out of the 2 Video Cards with the expection of the new technology. The diff in the 600 vs 700 watt was negligable in price so ya 700 is doable. The hard drive is where I have been torn it is about a $200 upgrade, not for going with the 10k drive, but getting a >40gig HD at 10k, then needing to buy a second 350gig or greater for storage. As far as Vista, its a bit more difficult on this one, almost all computer companies are selling and optimizing for Vista, yes I could downgrade while still buying the Vista license, but then I lose some of the benefit of the optimzing and testing I am paying for. If I built it myself or actually have someone smarter than me do that, it might be a bit easier. I will post in the Vanguard forum or search on the Vista thing.

Pojodan
March 7th, 2007, 05:40 PM
Don't know your budget, so I can't comment too well, but a single 8800 GTS might be the way to go for starters since a) It's only about 10% less powerful than a GTX, so the SLI setup might be slightly faster, but it will let you upgrade really easily by buying a second one after the prices have gone down. And b) The 700 Watt PS will be enough for SLIing two of them, while with the GTX you'll need to either get one of those secondary power supplies or upgrade to 800+ Watt when you get the second card.. GTXs are power hogs (Seeing as how they need two power plugs from two different rails, IIRC)

There's also the $200 price difference.


As far as the HD goes, faster read times are definately a boost since Vanguard does it a lot (17 GB game, after all). 10k RPM HDs are -expensive- though.

bigdogchris
March 7th, 2007, 06:49 PM
Stick with the 8800GTS over 7950. Don't bother with SLI unless your running a 20" widescreen monitor on 1900/1200 resolution because you won't notice a benefit from it under normal situations.

MoreBeer
March 8th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Stick with the 8800GTS over 7950. Don't bother with SLI unless your running a 20" widescreen monitor on 1900/1200 resolution because you won't notice a benefit from it under normal situations.


thats sorta true.. but i just built a new comp.. for the dreaded vista

and i got World of warcraft installed this week.. damn game is lookin like a cartoon.. so there is a diffrence even with a 19" monitor..

only bad thing with vista right now.. is lack of drivers..

ended up with

msi 975x platnim/ 2.4 intel core2 duo chip/ 2 gig ram.. and i went cheap on the vid card right now.. cuse nothing out there other then $700 vid cards
simply cant afford it.. but i do see huuuge diffrance with SLI allready

Guardian
March 12th, 2007, 07:48 AM
Recommend 700w power supply or higher, also you might as well just buy the 8800 GTX card, its better then 2x 7950, they've proved it in side by side comparisons. Also recommend getting a 10k RPM hard drive if youre planning on using it for Vanguard. Makes things smoother. I wouldnt get windows Vista tho, it doesnt like Vanguard and has caused probelms for some of my guild mates using the 8800GTX card. Im waiting for service pack 2 for Vista and the bugs ironed out. Thats just me personnally tho.

Ryo

Actually, if the system has it available get the 1 kilowatt PS. The only reason I suggest this is the 8800's work better if not required with a 1kilowatt. Better to have it if you plan to go to 8800's eventually.

Whytewulf
March 12th, 2007, 12:22 PM
the 1kwatt is a bit over-kill for me. I was trying to keep this thign around $1600 and ya, I could continue to get more, 4GB RAM, 2 VID cards, etc. I gotta draw the line somewhere.. I do use a 19" LCD and in reality, my laptop runs most things fine.. (or did), so I think I will see a nice upgrade in just these specs. Though I was debating on the SLI and the 8800.. I have 4 more days to decide.

Thanks again for everyones opinions.

Whytewulf
March 27th, 2007, 03:43 PM
Just thought I would update.. Ended up buying my PC over the weekend. Went with the 570, 8800GTS, 2 Gig or Ram, the 5200+, 500 gig HD (7200 RPM), 850 watt thermalake PS, and a new Thermalake Case. Oh and had them install Xp instead of Vista.. Maybe Vista a year from now.

bigdogchris
March 27th, 2007, 09:50 PM
I would of went with a core 2 duo. Faster than any AMD chips.

Whytewulf
March 28th, 2007, 07:14 AM
I would disagree, in the comparisons I have read AMD outperforms at price point. But that wouldn't have mattered to me, I don't buy Intel. :)

bigdogchris
March 28th, 2007, 09:14 PM
I would disagree, in the comparisons I have read AMD outperforms at price point. But that wouldn't have mattered to me, I don't buy Intel. :)I didn't realize the 64x2 5200 was only $200. Man AMD must be desperate, they are almost giving away their cpu's. That sucker performs as good as a core 2 duo $500 chip.

Whytewulf
March 29th, 2007, 07:53 AM
Thats what I saw and jumped on it. It actually was cheaper than the 5000. Not sure why, but I saw nothing in reviews to say it was a bad CPU, only that comparable CPUS weren't close. (it really was funny, when I went to put a CPU in my system, I had the 4800 2 weeks ago and it was may $74 cheaper than the 5200, then Sunday the 5200 was $10 cheaper.

bigdogchris
March 29th, 2007, 09:00 AM
I also noticed the x2 5200 has 2x1mb l2 cache where even the 5400 and up models only have 2x512k l2 cache for some reason.

Syche
March 30th, 2007, 08:20 AM
Actually, at pricepoint, the AMD chips are more powerfull...

-Me

bigdogchris
March 30th, 2007, 09:12 AM
Actually, at pricepoint, the AMD chips are more powerfull...

-MeWell considering they have lowered the price 2 or 3 times in the past 6 months I don't think anybody could disagree with you. I bought my core 2 duo before all these price drops. I payed $180 for a cpu that performed better than the $300+ amd chips. AMD started scrambling and dropped prices several times because sales dropped off significantly for them because the core 2 duo's are the best chip out there for the price, well were.