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  • Never Forget (11/16)

    I read a post from someone imploring Disney to "reboot" the Star Wars prequels. I don't think that's the right direction. Yes the Prequels were bad, but rebooting them would be no better than Lucas futzing with the originals. We might as well avoid any appearance of hypocrisy. Besides, there is PLENTY of other fantastic Star Wars material to focus on.

    The Prequels need to be there to remind us of what can go wrong when one person answers all his own questions and everyone around him is afraid to tell him no. Let the prequels stand. We'll move on an embrace the new movies. Besides, the prequels set the scene for the animated Clone Wars TV series (not the movie) which was so good.

    And yes, I'm serious. They should re-release the Star Wars Holiday Special. Lucas didn't have anything to do with it. But, it still haunts him. That's worth the price of admission right there.

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    AFS will be going up again today. I'd really like to take in a healthy amount of GU-ized images. They're quick, they're relatively cheap. And, it only takes a hand full of them to cover the ad revenue loss. Also, there's the Fancast. As I said before, I'm working on integrating it with the website so that subscribers will get the site ad free. When it goes live, the change will be applied to all existing Fancast accounts.

    Prints will also be going live again sometime this weekend.

    Also, the Attention Zombies shirt is being retired. It's currently on Clearance at Shark Robot for $9.95.
    Attention: Zombies EAT ME!

  • #2
    I myself have no issues with the prequels at all. I understand most people are up in arms about them changing the (back)story behind some things, but they aren't really that bad.

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    • #3
      Honestly? I liked the prequels. As much as the original 3, no of course not. But I don't care that it's not cool... I really liked the podracing in ep 1. I really liked the story in ep 2. and ep 3... well.... I liked the lava light saber battle.

      I think everyone expects cinematic masterpieces from the star wars films. But the supposed 'failure' of ep. 1-3 does NOTHING to detract from the genius of 4-6. If you don't like 1-3 don't watch them, pretend they don't exist.... The way I fail to recognize Johnny Cash's song "Chicken in Black."

      You're going to go youtube that one now, aren't you?

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      • #4
        I wish I could be as positive about them as you Darkpalladin.

        My issues with the movies didn't involve the back story getting changed a bit*. It happened in the original three movies too. My issues were with a boring plot not savable by the action. Bad casting. Horrible acting (probably the result of piss poor direction and too much green screen work). Not a single likable character (R2-D2 excluded). Etc.

        * except for midichlorians


        The single best part of all three of the prequels for me was finally getting to see Yoda fight.

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        • #5
          I rather they not touch episodes one to three, for the same reason why I dreaded their existence in the first place, there will never be any surprise or anything new will be revealed. Its like the fights that Obi-Wan were part of, we all know he is going to survive, so there was no wondering "is he going to make it".

          Overall I didn't mind them that much, I just had to remember I wasn't the target audience, that target audience was the one that could get their parents to buy them the toys to go with the movie. The only thing I truly disliked was a certain CGI creature for I just found it to be grating on my nerves.

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          • #6
            The only thing that bugs me is I do like some of the expanded universe. I like the Bioware Old Republic lore. I like some of the expanded universe, specifically any Star Wars book written by Timothy Zahn (lord if he had written the prequels then it would have been gorgeous) I'm just wondering what's going to happen to it all? I know that Lucas specifically didn't have any of the expanded universe start for at least 10 years in the movie storyline so there was room for another three movies. Does anyone know if the expanded universe is just going to be overwritten?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shnellehope View Post
              The only thing that bugs me is I do like some of the expanded universe. I like the Bioware Old Republic lore. I like some of the expanded universe, specifically any Star Wars book written by Timothy Zahn (lord if he had written the prequels then it would have been gorgeous) I'm just wondering what's going to happen to it all? I know that Lucas specifically didn't have any of the expanded universe start for at least 10 years in the movie storyline so there was room for another three movies. Does anyone know if the expanded universe is just going to be overwritten?
              The expanded universe already has been overwritten. Mandalore is completely different from the EU versions of it now because of the Clone Wars TV series. I hope they go a different direction and set the movies in an fairly untapped area, but that's hard to accomplish.

              I didn't hate Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith nearly as much as I hated Phantom menace. I understand that there has always been a "children's" story aspect to the SW movies, but even RoTJ at its worst with the teddy bears beating supposed hardened Storm troopers wasn't as cringe worthy as the scene with Anakin destroying the droid mothership, I swear that movie makes me think that R2 might in fact have been the chosen one.

              So no, don't reboot the prequels, I'm sure it'll never happen I can't imagine Lucas letting anyone touch his movies.

              I just hope they do something some what original, as much as I think Robert Downey Jr. Would make a really cool Thrawn, I think it is even better if they set the movies in an area of the SW no one has touched.

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              • #8
                The problem if they include any of the expanded universe they will run into problem with people complaining they got it wrong for it was not as written or they left out what they consider an important part. It happens with video games, so I can see the exact same thing happening with a Star Wars movie.

                BioWare had the right idea with The Old Republic they set it so far in the past it is unrelated to other Star Wars media, but people still complained about the light sabers being too advanced according to the other media.

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                • #9
                  Among all this talk of the Christmas special and prequels let's not forget the horror that was the two Ewok movies. They have Disney remake written all over them.

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                  • #10
                    The writeup initially mentioned the first Ewok movie (I don't recall a second). But, I removed a large section of the writeup making the ewok movie reference unnecessary.

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                    • #11
                      I heard that the original idea for RoTJ was to have Chewie's race as the ones that settled the moon. I like that idea better than the ewoks, they were a too kiddie for that movie.

                      There was a second ewok movie that was a kid's movie. Ewok's save a girl crashed on a planet, I am pretty sure that disney had something to do with that movie.
                      It is sad that we pride ourself on being mentally well adjusted to such a profoundly sick society.

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                      • #12
                        I actually liked a fair bit of the prequels. What soured them for me were three things:
                        1.) Midichlorians. Seriously. It didn't explain any possible inconsistencies, but raised even more and ruined the suspension of disbelief completely.
                        2.) Anakin. He had quite possibly the least believable fall to villainy I have ever seen in a movie. Also connected to this, the Jedi Council being retconned from a group of wise masters who aided everyone in the galaxy to a bunch of backwards, oppressive douchebags who played at politics and taught their students to fight.
                        3.) ****ing with the timeline. I freely admit that I like a lot of the EU much better than I like Lucas' own work and it especially bothers me that when the part of the EU I like best (between Zahn's Thrawn trilogy and the Hand of Thrawn duology) was written, Lucas actually supported it and made some of it semi-canon through games released by Lucasarts. He even provided the writers with a timeline of the original trilogy and events before them. Then he just turns around and ****s it all up because BOO HOO PEOPLE LIKE THE WORK OF ACTUAL WRITERS BETTER THAN MY SEMI-LITERATE FORMULAIC BULLSHIT.

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                        • #13
                          ... or they could re-release the old 80s droids cartoon...

                          those did not age well.
                          No Worries

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                          • #14
                            Magi, the crash happened in the first Ewok movie "Caravan of Courage". The Ewoks try to help her and her brother find their parents. The second one "Battle for Endor" (which I have not seen) seems to have featured the same girl after having been orphaned. That girl's parents had terrible luck: crashed, kidnapped, rescued by tribalistic mutant teddy bears, killed by marauders.

                            Apparently there was also a two season, animated TV series called "Ewoks" that followed up the two made for TV movies.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Woody View Post
                              Apparently there was also a two season, animated TV series called "Ewoks" that followed up the two made for TV movies.
                              oh yeah, I remember that... my little brother was nuts for that show.
                              the bad guys (Duloks) in that show actually showed up in Star Wars Galaxies on Endor.
                              all the shows are available on youtube, for those who want to ruin their memories
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